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pengwern

I don't know if I should have assumed that all the faction animals are mythical. Uh. Or Mikodez was lying to Alaric/the air? But if they only achieved mothdrives three hundred years /after/ the hexarchate's founding, that suggests the Nirai emblem isn't a reference to the starship propelling moths.
(...Although Kujen could have revamped the logos.)

Also, after thinking about numerical slang some more, that's probably verboten by Mikodez's time, and possibly even by year 361. I don't really know how to conceptualize a society where numbers are freighted with every kind of restriction.

From:

yhlee

The Nirai faction emblem used to be something else before the mothdrive's invention/discovery. I'd have to dig in the manuscript of Revenant Gun for it but it was like a ringed planet or something. I'll get back to you in a bit?

Also, the numerological aspect is ridiculous. Think about companies and release dates--everything has to be scheduled around the high calendar, which is often not great from a business/economic standpoint.

From:

zuhrovet

Should early Nirai have planet signifiers, then? Or does the training of the Rahal who's observing have an effect, as well as the calendar?

Edited (moth icon!) Date: 2018-02-10 10:59 pm (UTC)

From:

yhlee

Let's say the training of the Rahal doing the observing has an effect as well as the calendar. Mostly so we don't have to invent a whole extra set of signifiers. :p

From:

lleullawgyffes

hi I was just alerted to the existence of this conversation and I have some suggestions because I, Lleu, am just as obsessed with space astrology as Virmad is:

Ringworld Shattered (Broken-Winged Moth)
Ringworld Moon Rising (Knife-Winged Moth)
Ringworld Day Breaking (Clockwork Moth)
Ringworld Orbiting (Voidmoth on Patrol)

I'm trying to think of something to do with the aurora for Voidmoth of Many Constellations — maybe something like Ringworld Poles Shining?

(THAT SAID I also like the idea that the meanings don't overlap — but that would probably have been too chaotic for the Rahal.)

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yhlee

I feel like the Rahal would be pretty orderly about that. I'm happy for these to be in-game signifiers; either you can edit the wiki to add them, or I can do it later today when I have time. (I have to get some work done ahahahaha. XD )